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Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:16:00 - [1] OH GOOD HEAVENS IF ONLY SOMEBODY COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:28:00 - [2] Edited by: Black Dranzer on 22/06/2011 23:29:01 Currently listening to "The Green Nebula". It sounds more mournful than usual. Originally by: Illwill Bill It's interesting that CCP's hasn't been activated yet. Honestly, not even CCP has the hull tank for this.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:36:00 - [3] Originally by: Lord Fargo Can't see what the fuss is all about, get a real life job so you can pay for all of this, simply put, put up or shut up I've got a better idea How about me and everybody else who shares my opinions take our money and stop giving it to CCP How about that How does that sound
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 00:34:00 - [4] You know, thinking back, yesterday when the prices came out for the vanity items, I thought to myself, this is bad, but it probably won't hurt subscriber numbers. This.. this might actually hurt subscriber numbers.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 00:43:00 - [5] Originally by: Republica Winder Hurt? It's going to hurt like jumping out of a plane onto the peak of Mt. Everest without a parachute. Yeah, see, I'm more cynical. On the one hand, we're in an uproar (or denial), but we're the hardcore elite. Most players don't frequent the forums. Chances are a lot of people won't give a damn. And even if they do, our lost subscriptions will probably be compensated for by the people who are going to buy monocles and pants and, when the time comes, whatever else CCP puts out there. It'll damage reputation, probably. The question is, how much is reputation worth? Time will tell, I guess. Assuming this leak is legit, of course.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:02:00 - [6] Originally by: Cailais On re reading this document I think it may well be a fake, a carefully edited one. Even if the writing does appear suspicious, that doesn't change the confirmations by the CSM members, nor the fact that CCP hasn't yet come in and denied it. If this were false, there would be absolutely no reason not to deny it, even if they were planning to do something exactly like it in the future anyway.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:07:00 - [7] Originally by: Cailais CCP rarely dive straight in to these flames (if ever). Saying that this document is fake wouldn't pose any risk; if anything, it'd quell the flames. The forum flames are only dangerous if interaction would add fuel.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:15:00 - [8] Originally by: Nilania Telshua You are right, but only in the case that this document is a fake. In any other case denying the existence of a document distributed between 500 employees in open circulations would be... unwise... Yes, that's my point. They could safely deny it if it weren't real. Denying it would only be dangerous if it WERE real.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:24:00 - [9] Originally by: Miilla Who is actually logged in right now? Or are you just constant refreshing this page and logged off the client for more refresh rate? I'm not logged in. Incarna has nothing for me. The forums on the other hand? Fire pretty.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:46:00 - [10] Originally by: Sciencegeek deathdealer CCP's silence on the matter is just making things worse. Assuming it's true, what can they even say? I mean, really? Any spin will be seen as an attempt at spin. Any "confession" will be spread around just the same and touted as doomsday evidence. Their best bet right now is probably to let us burn ourselves out and then once things have calmed down post something along the lines of "Hey guys yeah things are changing give it time it's going to be great we swear we'll be careful we're looking into things just looking".

Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 02:09:00 - [11] First CCP post will be N/A. They won't post in this thread. Their first open statement will be a dev blog or a sticky.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 02:30:00 - [12] For context, the above Chribba post was made a week ago.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:12:00 - [13] Edited by: Black Dranzer on 23/06/2011 06:16:45 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oClM8tja5-o Sad nostalgic music, anyone? An Ibis in Todaki, all those years ago... I guess all good things have to end, though. Edit: Updated to the newer version of the song.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:41:00 - [14] You know what's going to be more miserable than anything? When they put out a compromising "Oh it's still early days we'll see where it all goes" post and everybody resubs and cheers as if it'll never happen again.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:23:00 - [15] Since it was obliterated from the blog comments: Originally by: Me, before being silenced HEY. ASS HOLES. When your community is screaming at you, you don't post cheery devblogs on unrelated crap. You either say what's pertinent, or you say NOTHING AT ALL. If you have a devblog that's been written before the hellstorm and waiting to be released, YOU KEEP IT SUPPRESSED UNTIL YOU TEND TO THE MAIN CONCERNS OF THE SCREAMING COMMUNITY. Most devs posting in this thread probably don't have direct control over that, of course. But I'm sure somebody reading this does have control of that.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:33:00 - [16] CCP: If it's unflattering, it's untrue.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:39:00 - [17] Originally by: MrSteack That thread is showing up on my PC, check your connection The thread is there. The post isn't. Their moderation is on overdrive.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 20:49:00 - [18] Who likes mournful music? Finally finished reading all that I missed. Still nothing from CCP besides an unrelated dev blog that only has 4 pages because their moderation is in overdrive, and only the sickeningly cheery supportive comments remain. That post from Bart Crane is interesting, and probably accurate. Some of us from yesterday are still here. Ahh well. This is kind of amusing, sort of like the way they used to put bears on hotplates to make them dance.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 21:27:00 - [19] Those new turrets really are nice, aren't they? Damn shame.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 21:32:00 - [20] If only Incarna had been bars with Poker.

Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 21:46:00 - [21] It feels like everybody's running out of steam. After cancelling a subscription, there's not much to do but stand around screaming outrage, and my throat is getting sore. This thing has been given major publicity already.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 21:57:00 - [22] Originally by: Fighter26 WHERE ARE THE MISSING PAGES 2 AND 3? There's an unedited doc somewhere in the thread..
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 22:36:00 - [23] Originally by: Belid Hagen This is what happens when you put members of goonswarm in charge of leading CCP's direction. To be fair, I doubt the CSM were in on this. They've testified they had no idea of the pricing (and they did ask). Direct hatred where it's warranted.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.23 23:54:00 - [24] Originally by: Riflin' Betty Doesn't it make you sick when you get lied to? He said "we have no plans". He never said "we'll never do it". It's the safe answer, and you should really be smart enough to learn to read between the lines in cases like these.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.24 00:00:00 - [25] Originally by: CCP We've also discussed this issue in depth with the Council of Stellar Management and will both consult with them and keep them up to date every step of the way." Gotcha.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.24 00:20:00 - [26] Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku Ok, before signing off for today, i just wanted to check where we are on the CHECKLIST: [x] denial -> most are past that, a few hardcore dudes are still hoping [o] anger -> ongoing still, keep it strong guys [o] bargaining -> some are already here, hoping CCP will give in to the demands, canceling subs and waiting [ ] depression -> nope, not yet, just a few gave up commenting already [o] acceptance -> a portion of the playerbase already accepted, but never got through the 5 stages, so don't really count for the checklist Ok, we have to keep the "anger" stage alive guys, go strong. I'm somewhere between bargaining (Maybe, just maybe they'll pull their heads out of their asses) and depression (no, we're screwed).
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.24 00:27:00 - [27] There are exactly five monocles on sale in Jita right now. Five. Count them. Go on, you only need one hand.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.24 00:36:00 - [28] People are chipping in to help get a response out of CCP.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.24 00:39:00 - [29] http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536065 STOP THE PRESSES
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.24 01:02:00 - [30] A gift for the naysayers:

Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.24 01:08:00 - [31] There's not much she can say; She's in PR/CM. Her primary job is not making the game, it's dealing with the players. There's a huge difference. Really, the apology should not have been posted by her. Not because she's not cut out to respond, but because she doesn't deserve to take the flames.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.24 01:16:00 - [32] Originally by: Arya Greywolf Fair enough, so why does CCP put her under the rug? Because that's her job; She's out there taking the flames because that's what she's paid to do. That doesn't mean she deserves the fire. It's just what she has to do. The best you can do is be polite to her and tell her that you want the blood of the people responsible, not the designated meat shield.

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